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there you go its how it really works i switch say with my devil tulpa he helps with my anxiety when i eat and sometimes i could feel him helping me with other stuff

1:02 PM

its all about comfort and communication with switching between you and your headmate

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1:02 PM

i could add this into my notes

Isn't waifumancy usually looked down upon

Not on this server :p

Such heteronormative naming. Husbandomancy is best mancy.

Lol i made plenty of husbandos

it's not waifumancy, it's tulpamancy waifus

You shouldn't other people just because they're cringey, y'know.

Zen

You shouldn't other people just because they're cringey, y'know.

I guess you’re right. I won’t other people anymore

Well that was remarkably simple.

6:45 PM

It seems I have solved world peace.

6:46 PM

I will inform the world leaders at once.

6:47 PM

Confusion

I mean my tulpa and I are in a relationship of sorts. She'd probably look at me funny if I called her my waifu lol

So, we have waifumancy for waifus and husbandomancy(?) for husbandos, but what if someone has non-binary tup? What kind of "-mancy" is this? I'm just curious. ;p

Spousomancy, duh

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I looked at her, called her a waifu, and she just gave me a disappointed look and said "don't" then laughed

10:42 PM

waifumancy and husbandomancy

10:43 PM

are the effects of Copium Overdose lol (edited)

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10:47 PM

Lol

A long kiss goodnight

the problem with possession in general is you allow things to controll you and open yourself to other unconscious possessions that you probably will never find, but are like parassitic, also you become less aware and give the commands of your life to something that is not you (could be even an angel.. is not right) so will start as when many people use magic, and they are not really living without it, and the object start to influence the subject in the way that your essence will be a little part in your body that think to have controll.

This is not the tulpamancy understanding of possession. In the tulpa community, possession means allowing your tulpa to control the body while the host still can take back control, intentionally or accidentally. You may be referring to switching. Switching is when a tulpa and host trade places where the tulpa basically becomes the host and vice versa. In this case if a tulpamancer believed they could switch with anything and those things could potentially hurt them, then I can see how that mindset would hurt them a lot. While possession and switching are generally safe as normally taught in the tulpa community, I'm curious if you are reporting issues you have seen in another magical community. If that's a common result, I'm wondering why it's taught like that.

i had a friend that used to let the tulpas controll him for things that he wasnt able (for what he said), also used on drive, have sex, energetic treatments, etc.. (was powerfull) but one of them was a bit.. out of controll.. so made energetic things that where bad.. and other things.. he was totally under the influence of his creation, was like an autist and his creation was the gang who was telling him what to do. and we had to focus him on one of them.. because was taking controll and modify is perception. i mean, i had two useful tulpas, and some of them where following me without direct problems, and i had benefits, also when i was working with energy, i tested new ways to create and use energy etc.. but about possessions and let them controll.. i think you open doors without thinking about close them.. and without the full consciousness. (edited)

I don't know if I have enough information. Normally tulpas and hosts have implied consent and have no interest in undermining one another. Additionally, I'm not sure what you mean by him being a bit out of control. From what you described, it sounds like your friend's tulpa became the host and your friend prefers to be a tulpa.

A long kiss goodnight

I don't know if I have enough information. Normally tulpas and hosts have implied consent and have no interest in undermining one another. Additionally, I'm not sure what you mean by him being a bit out of control. From what you described, it sounds like your friend's tulpa became the host and your friend prefers to be a tulpa.

i guess is something similar of what you say.. i honestly had no problem of this kind and have not tried the switch or the possession, because not really interested.. but experimented many different ways of creations.. at that time.. and my friend i meet him with around 10 of creations.. and only one of them created troubles.. and yes.. was probably him the host and my friend the tulpa..

In a big system like that especially, it's not uncommon for one of them to be the "edgy" headmate in some way shape or form. Somehow it's like when you hit 10+ odds are good you have at least one edgy or intrusive thought-like tulpa in the system. If your friend simply prefers to be a tulpa, that's not always a bad thing. Some original hosts find they prefer the backseat

I only hope they stay in the system

So if someone becomes a tulpa... Let's say I do that with my tulpa. She's a girl. So if she's the host, and it's permanent, would that cause some gender dysphoria or something like that?

7:50 PM

Because when I "switch" it's like my mind's eye sees me as her. (edited)

7:51 PM

And her voice is the main voice I hear in my head with mine in the background

Permanent is only permanent until it's not, so it's not really permanent I would be very careful letting a tulpa of a different gender than the body become the host, some tulpas might not feel dysphoric but some would

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So if someone becomes a tulpa... Let's say I do that with my tulpa. She's a girl. So if she's the host, and it's permanent, would that cause some gender dysphoria or something like that?

you would become @Unfastened Belts

Lol

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Permanent is only permanent until it's not, so it's not really permanent I would be very careful letting a tulpa of a different gender than the body become the host, some tulpas might not feel dysphoric but some would

It's a little dysphoric but it ain't terrible feeling.

Unfastened Belts

Lol

Did you permanently switch?

Deleted User

It's a little dysphoric but it ain't terrible feeling.

would you change gender over that feeling

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Did you permanently switch?

I'm not really a tulpa system. I tried to create one and gave up. I've identified as bigender since I was 15. Now I'm 30 and the only thing that's changed through tulpamancy is that I use two different names for my male and female side

8:55 PM

But I like to joke that I "killed my host", which is why you'll see references to that

sh

you would become @Unfastened Belts

i feel they already are Marissa

I had gender dysphoria long before I tried to create a female tulpa

Unfastened Belts

I had gender dysphoria long before I tried to create a female tulpa

I don't believe I've ever asked: Why didn't you proceed with 'mancy? I know you've said before you sort of stopped at a median state but that wasn't really your goal? (edited)

I just no longer felt like it

9:10 PM

Having two people try to interact inside this one body felt unnatural/"forced", if you catch my drift (edited)

I do. That's sort of the given of early tulpamancy imo. Though it should be understood that is the very belief you are fighting against when you try to do it.

9:12 PM

The only one, really.

Oh for sure, and I mean I was fighting it for a time. But neither "I" nor "Marissa" could be bothered to change enough for the distinction between us to become meaningful

9:13 PM

Aside from her having a form

From what you describe tbf you didn't want a tulpa, you wanted a form of expression.

9:14 PM

A very roundabout way to make a drag queen persona =D

i'm glad tulpamancy helped you explore more of yourself

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Possibly. When I started I did want a tulpa and share my brain with a second identity. It just lost its attraction along the way

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Permanent is only permanent until it's not, so it's not really permanent I would be very careful letting a tulpa of a different gender than the body become the host, some tulpas might not feel dysphoric but some would

I don't think it matters what the tulpa's gender is. If the system is insecure about their gender, then they could struggle with dysphoria. I struggled with dysphoria until I resolved my gender insecurity

all problems tulpamancers face are based on insecurities they have

9:16 PM

some of them I think should be addressed before they decide to switch host spot with their tulpa of different gender

I think that might be an oversimplification. It's not merely insecurities, but the possibility of insecurity.

I really don't want to tell people "don't have tulpas of a different gender" because I think a tulpa should be whatever gender they want to be. If the host wanted an opposite gendered tulpa, there's probably a good reason for that.

but if there is anyone on this server that knows what it is like, it's you, so I will not argue against anything you will say about this

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but if there is anyone on this server that knows what it is like, it's you, so I will not argue against anything you will say about this

Who now?

yeah I don't mean having a tulpa of different gender, the person that asked the question asked about what happens if they swap places permanently

Unfastened Belts

Who now?

ranger

Gotcha

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i feel they already are Marissa

same

9:27 PM

you've developed a radar for this stuff already!

9:27 PM

i'm so proud of you

i learned from the best

9:28 PM

All interesting. But yeah I occasionally will switch with my tulpa. I never had a history of dysphoria, but yeah when I switch I just sorta see myself as a "girl" though I'm still in my body. She never had an issue with it. If anything I can describe the feeling as "trippy" lmao. I'm just kinda curious if she controlled my body long enough, if that would induce dysphoria.

9:28 PM

Idk all this stuff is just interesting I like reading about it

9:29 PM

sounds like Marissa

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9:30 PM

Lol. I mean I do consider her just a part of me but running through the female mind or something

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sounds like Marissa

If anything, I felt more dysphoric when "Marissa was switched in"

9:32 PM

Which was probably also part of the reason I gave up on mancy

So what you're telling me is it would have been better if you made a Roger tulpa to literally take over your life?

Lol

9:34 PM

That was partly my original intention for Marissa

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All interesting. But yeah I occasionally will switch with my tulpa. I never had a history of dysphoria, but yeah when I switch I just sorta see myself as a "girl" though I'm still in my body. She never had an issue with it. If anything I can describe the feeling as "trippy" lmao. I'm just kinda curious if she controlled my body long enough, if that would induce dysphoria.

I honestly wonder if me reading about dysphoria from other people's experiences led to me developing it myself. Worst case scenario, I think it's worth keeping an open mind you can get dysphoria via suggestion.

infohazards!

Pshhh. You can't gender flip a man and give him wishy-washy beliefs. I would be willing to bet if you asked yourself "What would Roger do", it almost certainly would not line up with Marissa.

9:36 PM

you gotta copy the source material!

Part of my narration included "you have peace of mind because you understand that everything happens through the will of life". Did not quite work out that way lol

sh

would you change gender over that feeling

no? then no issue

9:37 PM

marissa you're an infohazard here

Oops

9:37 PM

D:

Unfastened Belts

Part of my narration included "you have peace of mind because you understand that everything happens through the will of life". Did not quite work out that way lol

You literally narrated this to them?

9:38 PM

God I hate narration.

9:38 PM

It's shit

9:39 PM

Worthless forcing tool, zero out of ten without knowing the correct hypnosis mindsets.

Yes. "I am Philipp. I am your host. You are Marissa. You are my tulpa. You live in my heart. You have peace of mind because you understand that everything happens through the will of life. Wake up and talk to me"

is it from a guide?

Zen

you gotta copy the source material!

I don't need to make a whole freakin' tulpa to know what Roger would say :p

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is it from a guide?

Nah

no wonder you didn't develop a tulpa!

Unfastened Belts

I don't need to make a whole freakin' tulpa to know what Roger would say :p

I know. You already have a Roger tulpa, he's just not aware yet.

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Yeah Marissa doesn't sound like the classic tulpa case

Unfastened Belts

Nah

Hi Roger

And clearly you're more obsessed with him than Marissa

9:41 PM

=D

can you tell me about the relation between boredom and suffering? (edited)

Which is good material!

Imagining her form next to me was definitely more successful than narration